Posts: 117
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: May 2006
posted May 27, 2008 03:01 PM
Mann was offering free refreshments this past weekend to lure people to the Glendale 4. I wonder how this Summer will play out? The Beverly Center and Beverly Connection did get first run bookings after the Grove opened, but eventually lost all new bookings once the Grove really took off.
Posts: 685
From: Monterey Park, CA
Registered: Jun 2003
posted May 27, 2008 05:17 PM
Im sure a safe move would be to keep kid and family friendly movies over at the 4-plex (since it has stadium seating and decent sized auditoriums). Put more higher end movies and the blockbusters over at the Pacific.
I sense the nails are in the coffin for the 10 plex.
posted May 28, 2008 11:52 AM
According to IMDB showtimes both Sex and the City will be opening and the Pacific 18 AND both Mann 4 and 10 theatres. The Strangers will open at the Pacific and the Mann 10. Indiana Jones also gains a screen at the Mann 10 this Friday. Look like all theatres will be sharing all films?
Posts: 117
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: May 2006
posted May 28, 2008 02:13 PM
That is interesting. I've never seen that type of booking for theatres in such a close radius. It is good for Mann, at least they could get continuous bookings of new product; the Glendale 10 had been running that same films for about a month.
posted May 28, 2008 02:40 PM
Does anyone know how these booking arrangements are made? Is it the 2 theatre chains that come to terms or is it the distributors or both? Does population count? It seems for opening weekend at the Pacific it got exclusives on Iron Man and Made of Honor, but nothing after that.
The 2 places I know where simultaneous bookings happen to theatres not of the same chain but right near each other are the Edwards and AMC Ontario, CA plexes and Cinemark and AMC plexes in downtown Long Beach.
If they can do it in Glendale, why can't Mann try to book the same films at the Beverly Center that Pacific does at the Grove less than a couple miles away? Or the Chinese and Arclight for that matter?
Posts: 117
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: May 2006
posted May 28, 2008 03:51 PM
Can you imagine if the Beverly Center got the same bookings as The Grove? If the rumored AMC Plex is built at the Beverly Center the bookings may mirror.
posted May 29, 2008 12:12 PM
Who - in their rightful, sane and rational mind - would want to watch a single frame of "Indy 4" and "Iron Man" at The Beverly Center?!?!
posted May 29, 2008 12:22 PM
I was just thinking hypothetically. Still, I am curious how the booking arrangements were agreed on and by whom in Glendale.
posted June 02, 2008 10:24 AM
It is an arrangement between the studios and operators. Originally, when the AMC and Edwards in Ontario started playing day-and-date it was only with select studios. Now I believe all studios play in both locations at the same time. The same was true in Long Beach for Cinemark and AMC and it may still be the case.
It really is to the benefit of both operators to play the same product. If Mann pulls a big booking from Pacific then they suffer and vice versa.
However, the studios loose since they cannot play the operators against each other when negotiating the booking deal.
posted June 02, 2008 11:09 AM
I guess a case where they would not want to share would be if one operator had a chance of knocking another out of the market. Such might be the case in Lynnwood, WA where the relatively new AMC Loews Alderwood 16 is going head to head with Regal Alderwood Stadium 7. They do not play the same films and AMC Loews dominates. Regal, however, does seem to get the occasional great booking, but they usually spread it over 3 screens.
I guess Pacific and Mann decided not to fight in Glendale. Pacific probably feels it will prevail in the long run. Perhaps they will just wait for competition to crumble and take over Mann's theatres and turn them into an Art House/Move-Over/Overflow houses like they did in South Bay and Sherman Oaks.
posted June 02, 2008 04:10 PM
I'm (supposed to be) going here on Saturday night to see the new Adam Sandler flick "You Don't Mess With The Zohan." I'll be with my film club so it'll be a little hard for me to spy the other auds unless I make a restroom run. But I'll send my $0.02 on Sunday (if I go!).
quote:I'm (supposed to be) going here on Saturday night to see the new Adam Sandler flick "You Don't Mess With The Zohan." I'll be with my film club so it'll be a little hard for me to spy the other auds unless I make a restroom run. But I'll send my $0.02 on Sunday (if I go!).
I went. First things first - this joint is DEFINITELY TOP MASKING! I pity the poor souls who sat through Indy 4 & Kung Fu Panda with half the the screen disappeared. Yeah, the auditoriums are wide, but the projection & sound are both subpar.
All in all, the theatre - and the mall itself - is "Mini-Grove". And just as overrated as it's big brother, too.
posted June 09, 2008 09:13 AM
I've never been to the Mann 4 so I can't give a fair comparison...
...however, I would have to say "Yes" because, despite their lack of business savvy, Mann Theatres has ALWAYS been known for their SHOWMANSHIP - which this new Pacific has ABSOLUTELY ZERO of!