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Mark Campbell
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 - posted August 11, 2010 01:37 PM      Profile for Mark Campbell   Email Mark Campbell         Edit/Delete Post 
I am wondering why they are still holding on to the Oak Tree 6 in Seattle, right near the newish Regal Thornton Place 14. Though it still seems to be getting its slim share of 1st run films (they got "The Other Guys" last weekend which was #1).

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Richard A Stegman Jr
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 - posted August 19, 2010 06:04 PM      Profile for Richard A Stegman Jr   Email Richard A Stegman Jr         Edit/Delete Post 
ETX is now at Ontario Mills 30 in Ontario,California.

"Step Up 3D" is the first movie,according to the Los Angeles Times.

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Dan Spaulding
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 - posted November 02, 2010 06:04 PM      Profile for Dan Spaulding   Email Dan Spaulding         Edit/Delete Post 
I just talked today to the manager at AMC Alderwood Mall. They just received word that they'll soon install ETX in Auditorium 8. There on a fast track to install digital on all 16 screens, 5 currently are now digital that includes an Imax screen in Auditorium 9

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John J. Fink
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 - posted November 03, 2010 07:26 AM      Profile for John J. Fink   Author's Homepage   Email John J. Fink         Edit/Delete Post 
Interesting, if Alderwood is anything like it's analog, AMC Rockaway - I assume the complex is symmetrical (save for an error in construction) and therefore 8 and 9 are the same size auditorium (or were, at least). Therefore you can easily compare ETX and IMAX (and of coarse if IMAX ever wanted to file a lawsuit....they tried to sue Cinemark who got pissed that IMAX locked them out of several markets, giving first crack to AMC and Regal).

Of coarse everyone is developing their own versions of a digital large screen experience, and it's been reported Rave is doing it next. Of coarse no one is doing it with the imagination that Harkins does with the Cine Capri which isn't about a monster screen so much as a return to a classic theatre experience. I'll take a page from New York gubernatorial candidate Jimmy McMillian and just say "the ticket prices are too damn high" - screw paying an upgrade fee to be "immersed" and have an experience that I could have by simply sitting closer to the screen. If a theatre doesn't offer great presentation in all auditoriums (hey Clearview Cinemas are you listening!) then I'll go elsewhere.

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Dan Spaulding
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 - posted November 17, 2010 04:10 PM      Profile for Dan Spaulding   Email Dan Spaulding         Edit/Delete Post 
Sad news today for fans of the Uptown 3 in Seattle. The Times reports that this SRO built house will be closing there doors on Nov 28th. AMC gave there standard reply about closing older theaters that no longer compete effectively in the marketplace. I'm hoping that perhaps it can become an independent run house like the Cinerama or have Landmark Theaters look at reopening it in the next few months after a needed remodel. 2 of there smaller houses have stadium seating with the large house featuring a giant curved screen. I'll need to make 1 last visit to say goodbye

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Mark Campbell
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Still not sure why they want to close this but keep the Oak Tree open with all new digital projectors.

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John J. Fink
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 - posted November 17, 2010 06:39 PM      Profile for John J. Fink   Author's Homepage   Email John J. Fink         Edit/Delete Post 
AMC is closing several older theaters on November 28th - many from the Kerasotes acquisition. The sad thing is a few are rural theaters, from some posters online I hear the next closet theatre in some cases is 30-40 miles away. Granted this is a management headache to AMC, I hope they figure out a way to do the honorable thing and put these sites on the market so that a local operator can come in and have a turn key operation, if the sites are still viable. I don't know if they are, but I imagine loosing a theatre that holds it's own even if it may not put up the margins that a modern 16-screener at the mall does, can be a devastating blow for a small downtown.

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Dan Roben
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The Uptown 3 closing is not good at all. It's one of my favorite theaters in Seattle for many reasons, one of which being that there were rarely any crowds there. Which, I suppose, is why AMC is closing it.

The Uptown had become AMC's defacto art-house, booking almost exclusively their "AMC Independent" listed films. And the films they did book were often the second-tier films that Landmark would pass up. That, coupled with the fact that AMC has dropped their daily newspaper ad of showtimes (which I still contend is a viable medium to advertise in, along with the Internet) and it's no wonder that nobody showed up. I'm just surprised it took this long for AMC to shut it down.

Landmark would be a perfect operator for the Uptown. In fact, the theater screams Landmark. I would not be at all surprised to see them take it over, and soon. especially because the Uptown has become a major venue for the Seattle International Film Festival, often selling out the large 500 seat house during the festival's 25 day run. I don't see an independent running it, although it's possible that the owner of Ballard's Majestic Bay Theater could make a go of it. The Bay is very popular.

No major remodel is really needed, just a good sprucing up. AMC has maintained the theater well.

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Mark Campbell
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In addition to the 2nd tier art house fare, the AMC also double booked the Uptown with films that were already playing at the AMC Pacific Place. In earlier days the Uptown was considered in the same zone as all the downtown theatres, and I wonder if that rule would apply if a new operator came in? Could it play the same films as the Pacific Place or Regal Meridian 16? The newly independent Cinerama will be doing so with Harry Potter 7.1 so there could be a glimmer of hope the Uptown could follow suit.

I think the Uptown's only future would be as an art house or 2nd run discount. Seattle audiences are pretty savvy with their art-house theatres and the having AMC branding all over it plus the "preshow countdown" (ugh) did not help it. It would certainly be a turn-key to become a Landmark with minimal work, but after seeing Landmark shuttering most of its smaller theatres in LA in favor of the arty-Arclight approach of their flagship The Landmark, something tells me their business focus is not on taking on an older 3-screen cinema.

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Scott D. Neff
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I have to say it's bizarre to go to the Uptown and see an older theatre crammed full of AMC propaganda. It just doesn't seem natural for some reason.

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Dan Roben
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Another sad reminder about the closing of the Uptown for those of us who have called Seattle home all our lives is the fact that it is the purest of the remaining open SRO Theaters in that except for the carpeting (standard Cineplex-Odeon issue) and all the AMC logo stuff in the lobby, nothing else has changed. The original color scheme, the original seats (still quite comfortable rocking chair seats dating from the remodel in the mid-80's). the snack bar and ambience are still there, except for the obnoxious pre-show which as Scott noted above seems so out of place with the art-film fare it shows.

Landmark is strong in Seattle and their presence is made up of three single screens, two twins, a triplex, a quad and a ten-plex, so the addition of the Uptown would fit nicely into the mix. As far as I know, there are no plans by Landmark to shutter any of their screens here.

I don't see a second-run operation in its future.

But I have been wrong before...

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Mark Campbell
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Dan, I think the Uptown is even more SRO than you think. The carpet appears to standard SRO issue. Take a look at my photos on Cinematour. That is the same carpet I remember being in the Tacoma South Cinemas and others SRO's of the 80's. That full house you see in the pictures was from the film fest. We saw Sex and the City 2 on opening weekend there in the medium auditorium and there were only about 50 people there for a 4PM saturday show.

http://www.cinematour.com/tour/us/2594.html

The Oak Tree, though, definitely has Cineplex Odeon carpet.

http://www.cinematour.com/tour/us/2586.html

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Dan Spaulding
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I just learned that Landmark Theaters will not likely save the Uptown. 1 reason has to do with the fact that the Neptune Theater in the U District is being sold to STG Seattle Theater Group that operates the Moore & Paramount Theaters & will become a live venue for concerts & stage shows. I understand Landmark is shuttering several theaters in other cities. No word as to how soon the Neptune will be closed by Landmark. The SIFF Cinema folks were also approached & had no interest either in operating the Uptown Cinemas

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Rachel Strong
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Tonight appears to be it for the following theaters without showtimes past tonight:

AMC Plaza 3
300 Main Street
Keokuk, IA
http://www.dailydem.com/articles/2010/11/10/news/news4.txt

AMC Kennett 1
224 First Street
Kennett, MO
http://www.dddnews.com/story/1682819.html

AMC Richmond 10
600 Commerce Road
Richmond, IN
http://www.pal-item.com/article/20101110/NEWS01/101109022/1008/‘Dollar-Theater--closing-date-set-for-Nov.-28

AMC Hamilton 10
877 Washington Boulevard NW
Hamilton, OH

AMC Flat River 2
300 W. Main Street

Park Hills, MO 63601

AMC Eastwood 2
663 E. Main Street

Peru, IN 46970

AMC Loews Uptown 3
511 Queen Anne Ave N.

Seattle, WA 98109

AMC Harrisburg 4
5 Main Street

Harrisburg, IL 62946
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=11720&type=top

AMC Will Rogers 2
705 Monroe Street

Charleston, IL 61920

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Robert Crabtree
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In the case of several of those theatres, there is another nearby AMC that would be the sole theater to take up the shuttered theater's attendance. In the case of Hamilton, OH, the AMC that will be staying open is in the same zip code.

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