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Chris Utley
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 - posted November 26, 2006 04:51 PM      Profile for Chris Utley   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Utley         Edit/Delete Post 
Just got back from Vegas for Thanksgiving. Stopped by the new Regal Red Rock Stadium 16 and saw "Casino Royale". The decor, the seats and the sound system scream EDWARDS but the screens scream REGAL.

We were in one of the (6?) big auditoriums. Sound was very boom boom with deep rich bass and well balanced midrange & tweeters - quite shocking for a Regal brand theatre. The screen sucked. Had to have been about 45 feet wide or so with the dreaded top down masking. The screens in the smaller auds looked about 30-40 feet wide - like your atypical Regal complex. Lame. They'd better send their management to Arclight to see how to properly build their upcoming LA area "flagship". Top down masking ain't gonna cut it in The Capital, folks!

BTW...the day before this, we went to the Regal (UA) Showcase (next to MGM Grand) where we saw "Deja Vu" in full blown, center channel speaker rattling STEREO...despite the big DTS PLAQUE sitting on the entrance wall of the auditorium. Needless to say, that's my last time going to that place. Third time I've gone there...third time the sound has been suspect!

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David Au
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Regal is building a flagship?

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Chris Utley
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Yep. They're building a flagship in LA right across from Staples Center. Details here.

There's also a rendering of the exterior here (the 5th post on the page).

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Jeff Arellano
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I hope they dont screw up this project. Seriously.

Also, ground looks like its getting broken into finally.

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Chris Utley
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If the suits at Regal have any sense, they'll consult some of the film industry big shots to help them with this project like Pacific/Arclight did. Arclight is the gold standard in megaplexes. Since this is Regal's first theatre in LA proper, they really need to take some serious notes from the masters on how to build theatres in The Capital.

I can accept the fact that the theatres won't have the slightest hint of THX certification, but their affinity for top down masking makes no sense. That stuff may be fine for the burbs, but, as I said before, that's not gonna cut it in The Capital. If they insist on top-down masking at this theatre, at least make 6 of the screens 60 feet wide or more!

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Dan Roben
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Chris (and anyone else),

This is kind of off-topic, but what makes the Arclight so very special? I've been to the Dome before (pre-Arclight) and I know it's been given "The Seattle Cinerama Treatment" so I know how special that part of Arclight is.

And I'm guessing that Arclight uses side masking as opposed to top down masking. Tell me more about this place. I may be heading down to LA soon, and I may be checking it out if I can find the time.

Thanks!

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David Au
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From the pictures I have seen of the Arclight's blackbox theaters, it looks like they have big screens, but I don't know if it is top down masking or not.

Regal does have one all THX certified theater: Regal Dole Cannery Stadium 18 in Honolulu. Regal does pay for THX, but only under special circumstances.

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Chris Utley
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Here's the skinny on Arclight/Cinerama Dome:

When they redid the Dome, they changed the interior decor. Back in the day, seats, carpet and curtains were gold. Now, keeping in step with Arclight's black-box scheme, the decor is a green that's so dark, it almost looks black. Wisely, because this is The Capital, that's the only thing they tampered with. Screen is still 82 feet wide, they added MORE(!) speakers, and it now has the ability to run genuine 3 camera Cinerama. Despite the theatre name, true Cinerama had never been run at the theatre. 3 years ago, I saw "How The West Was Won" here. A sight to behold.

As far as the Arclight side, try these apples on for size: It's a tri-level complex with 14 THX-Certified auditoriums - 7 on level 3, 7 on level 1 (the lobby is level 2). I've only been on level 3 and have verified that all 7 auds do indeed have side masking. I saw "House of Flying Daggers" in the "small" auditorium near the end of its run. The screen was huge! I would guess 45 feet or so. The sound definitely has some pop and the bass is pretty deep.

If I'm not mistaken, LA Times readers voted it the best place to see a movie in LA. Having said that, all this luster does come with a price: Get ready to pay $14 a person on Friday & Saturday nights! And the seating is all reserved - you pay your $$$ then you tell them where you want to sit or they'll assign seating for you.

If I'm missing anything, I'm sure Jeff A. will gladly fill in the missing blanks.

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Richard A Stegman Jr
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OK,Chris,Jeff,etc.

A couple of dumb,idiot,off topic question here since i don't know a freaking thing about how these things work but...

What the hell is "Side Masking","Top Masking" and all these techie terms regarding screen size and how do i identify it when trying to watch a movie in a theatre? Is it like "letterboxing" on TV,with the black bars?

I think i need to take a serious course in Movie Theatres 101. lol.

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Chris Utley
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Masking is the the black area that surrounds the movie theatre screen. Top Masking is when they lower that black area from the top in order to show widescreen/scope photographed movie. They do this because their screens weren't built wide enough to accomodate a full widescreen image. The top masking actually makes the screen smaller.

Side masking is when that black area is expanded from the side in order to project a true & genuine widescreen/scope photographed movie - it actually makes the screen bigger. That's how it should be done. Period!

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Dan Roben
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Richard,

Masking involves moving the black shading around a screen to fit the aspect ratio of the film being presented. If the theater has side masking, the shading is removed on both the left and right sides to create a larger viewing area to accommodate wide screen scope. If the theater only has top masking (a bad trend), the top shading comes down to cover the top portion of the screen to create a "wide" screen. Unfortunately, this makes for a smaller screen size.

Hope that answers your question.

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Richard A Stegman Jr
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Kk. thanks,guys. I always thought the black borders around the screen were standard. I know better now and i can now say that top masking does suck.

I hate seeing the tops of peoples heads cut off from the top of the screen.

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David Au
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Cutting off people's heads should not happen. The picture is probably out of frame. That is an error due to the projectionist and it can be corrected right away.

Whether masking is top down or side, if the picture is projected properly no part of the picture will be cut off.

However, if a movie theater has a screen that is permanently fixed in 2:1 ratio, that type of screen does chop off part of the image in all cases. Those are screens that don't have movable masking.

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To add a little to Chris' great commentary, the Arclight is mirrored up and down. The upper level is an exact mirror of the lower level. Therefore all 14 theatres are big and great to see a movie. There isn't a bad seat. Even those seats up front are still far enough from the screen that you can see the picture perfect.

And fresh, real butter on the popcorn!

The only complaint I have with the Arclight is Sunset Blvd!

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Dan Roben
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Thanks for the info, Chris and Jeff. I'll be in LA in January, so I will definitely find time to visit what sounds like a great theater!

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